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Latest Palin Smear: Palin Charged Rape Victims for Rape Kits as Mayor… but when the truth gets out the elite media and the Democrats will have egg on their face again

Posted by iusbvision on September 12, 2008

Welcome Neoneocon readers!

Editor’s Note – Attention leftists who are propagating this smear against Governor Palin – When you came to the conclusion that the administration in Wasilla were some kind of monsters, didn’t you stop to ask yourself “why would a police chief want to make sure women paid for their own rape kits”  and think twice before you started posting these silly accusations?

Before 2000 all rape victims in Illinois and several other states were billed for the kits; from 2000 -2003 with the changes to Illinois law under the Obama bill many women still got billed for the kit. QUESTION – is every mayor and police chief in Illinois some craven jerk that delights in the fact that women had to pay?? Of course not. Just as if you get in a car accident and are knocked out cold, if they have to ambulance you or life flight you, even if it is a drunk driver who committed a crime against you, you still get a bill. The state or insurance or the perp will usually pay later, but to pretend like any of this was unique to Wasilla is silly. Read the story below where it says “Original Story” and then read the updates.

Special Note from the Editor – Some leftists on web sites are posting the following or something similar, saying that we got this story wrong and quote the following links.

Univ. of Chicago – Dean of Students – Sexual Violence

Pamphlet from the Illinois Coalition Against Sexual Assault: http://www.icasa.org/docs/after_sexual_assault.pdf (see page 3)

Here is where those leftists go wrong – The law they are quoting is the law as it is in Illinois NOW (which was created in 2003), but in 2000 the law was changed to exactly what the IUSB Vision said it was (which was the Obama sponsored bill).
Below is the the law they are quoting and again, it was not passed until 2003. In 2004 women were still being charged due to weak implementation of the law according to US News & World Report. Below is a list of all of the hoops a rape victim had to meet before they could get reimbursed for the rape kit as of 2003.
Section 545.100  Hospital Charges and Reimbursement

When any hospital or ambulance provider furnishes emergency services to any alleged sexual assault survivor, as defined by the Department of Public Aid pursuant to Section 6.3 of the Act, who is neither eligible to receive such services under the Illinois Public Aid Code [305 ILCS 5] nor covered as to such services by a policy of insurance, as defined in the Illinois Insurance Code [215 ILCS 5], the hospital and ambulance provider shall furnish such services to that person without charge and shall be entitled to be reimbursed for its billed charges in providing such services by the Department of Public Aid. (Section 7 of the Act) (Source:  Amended at 27 Ill. Reg. 1567, effective January 15, 2003)

http://www.ilga.gov/commission/jcar/admincode/077/077005450001000R.html

Bottom line, IUSB Vision was right.


* * * * Original Story Below* * * *

It all started with a year 2000 article in The Frontiersman.

The new [state] law makes it illegal for any law enforcement agency to bill victims or victims insurance companies for the costs of examinations that take place to collect evidence of a sexual assault or determine if a sexual assault did occur.

We would never bill the victim of a burglary for fingerprinting and photographing the crime scene, or for the cost of gathering other evidence, Knowles said. Nor should we bill rape victims just because the crime scene happens to be their bodies.

While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.

Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams.

In the past we’ve charged the cost of exams to the victims insurance company when possible. I just don’t want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer, Fannon said.

According to Fannon, the new law will cost the Wasilla Police Department approximately $5,000 to $14,000 a year to collect evidence for sexual assault cases.

Ultimately it is the criminal who should bear the burden of the added costs, Fannon said.

The forensic exam is just one part of the equation. Id like to see the courts make these people pay restitution for these things, Fannon said.

Fannon said he intends to include the cost of exams required to collect evidence in a restitution request as a part of a criminals sentencing.

EDITORS NOTE – The bill that the state passed made no provision for the state or the city to recover the costs for the kits or other materials from the perp who committed the crime; it is that oversight which Police Chief Fannon clearly opposed – THE BILL ITSELF: http://www.legis.state.ak.us/PDF/21/Bills/HB0270D.PDF

So here we go with the spin from the left to smear Governor Palin, with USA Today, DailyKOS, Huffington Post… and even former Alaska Governor Tony Knowles, who has been caught in fabrications before about Palin says this according to left wing blog “the McClatchy Report:

While some of their complaints have already been aired, Knowles broke new ground while answering a reporter’s question on whether Wasilla forced rape victims to pay for their own forensic tests when Palin was mayor.

True, Knowles said.

Eight years ago, complaints about charging rape victims for medical exams in Wasilla prompted the Alaska Legislature to pass a bill — signed into law by Knowles — that banned the practice statewide.

“There was one town in Alaska that was charging victims for this, and that was Wasilla,” Knowles said.

Now the Truth – The link below is to the minutes of the committee hearing where the Alaska Legislature took testimony and discussed the 2000 rape kit bill in Alaska.

Democrats Rep. Croft and Former Democrat Governor Tony Knowles said to the press that the reason the law came up was because the evil Palin was charging women for Rape kits in Wasilla….one problem. Read the minutes of the committee hearing on the bill. The testimony from the State Public Safety Commissioner’s Office says that NO police agencies in Alaska had ever charged an individual for one of these kits. In fact, if the whole thing was done because of Wasilla and Palin – why did the words Palin and Wasilla NEVER come up in committee hearings or testimony on the bill???

Here is the link to the hearing where Deputy Public Safety Commissioner Smith says so.

HERE is the link to the second committee hearing on the bill where the Director of the Alaska Network on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault testified that while no police agencies billed victims, some hospitals have billed insurance companies in several parts of the state.

This means that women had nothing to worry about. Only some hospitals were attempting to bill insurance companies (think about it, many hospitals double bill and send anything that moves a bill). If there was no insurance the state picked it up and tried to recover the cost from the perp, which was the standard practice in several states and the practice went on in several areas in Alaska according to the testimony, not just Wasilla as Knowles claimed to the press recently (the Southeast area the testimony refers to is the Capital of Alaska Juneau, Sitka, and Ketchikan).

In short, Democrats lied again.

The rape kit smear  from Knowles and the Democrats gets even richer; from the time Palin took office till the time the new state law was passed exectly zero rapes were reported to the city of Wasilla.

Both FBI Crime Reports and the City of Wasilla show ZERO rapes from 1995 up to the year 2000. During 2000 one rape was reported and two rapes each for 2001 and 2002.

Police Chief Fannon was saying that it was the policy of the police department to charge insurance companies or the perpetrator for the cost of the kit. As I will show you below, this is not an unusual policy at all so Alaska was ahead of the curve in changing these laws.

Wasilla had no police department before 1996 so if a rape were reported  sheriff or the state police would have handled it anyway.

The hits just keep on coming…..

Guess which political party amended the Violence Against Women Act to mandate that the states pay for rape kits in 2009??… – THE BILL WAS SPONSERED BY REPUBLICAN JAMES SENSENBRENNER and passed in 2005, it gets better, guess which state is STILL billion women for the rape kits….why its Obama’s home state:

US News & World Report

But according to a 2004 bulletin published by the NCVC, “[F]eedback from the field indicates that sexual assault victims are still being billed.” Knecht says she’s recently heard from caseworkers in Illinois, Georgia, and Arkansas reporting that rape victims continue to be charged for their forensic exams.

And all it took was about 20 minutes of fact checking public documents to prove that they are lying about Palin again and that many jurisdictions had this rape kit policy.

UPDATE I – Somepeople are claiming that the http://www.disastercenter.com/alaska/crime/35.htm link doesn’t start reporting until 2000. This is untrue as you can plainly see the aggravated assault and roberies are listed from 1995 to 2000.

Another person says that Wasilla had sexual assaults, sure they did but none were reported as rapes according to the data above. http://www.cityofwasilla.com/index.aspx?page=103 is the link for the crime states off Wasilla’s own city data server and it does show sexual assaults, however there are four degrees sexual assault in Alaska. Sexual assault can be defined as any unwanted contact that can be interpreted in a sexual nature, like grabbing someone’s butt:

Sexual assault can be verbal, visual, or anything that forces a person to join in unwanted sexual contact or attention. Examples of this are voyeurism (when someone watches private sexual acts), exhibitionism (when someone exposes him/herself in public), incest (sexual contact between family members), and sexual harassment. It can happen in different situations, by a stranger in an isolated place, on a date, or in the home by someone you know.

http://www.4woman.gov/FAQ/sexualassault.htm

It makes no sense that Wasilla in 1995 would report population, robberies and aggravated assaults to reporting agencies such as the FBI but leave rapes out.

UPDATE II: Illinois Bill Obama SPONSORED would still result in many women being billed for the rape kits!!!!

A leftist commenter tried to pull a fast one on us HERE. By claiming that Obama’s bill forbade the practice of charging women for the rape kit, but the joker didn’t read the bill. It forbids using collection agency like tactics against any crime victim for any expense incurred for the investigation of the crime. And if the victim meets certain hardship criteria they can ask the court for emergency funds if they cannot pay for the kit themselves, BUT if the cost of the kit cannot be recovered from the perpetrator the cost goes back to the alleged victim. If the victim was a minor or disabled, and reported the crime within 72 hours and obeyed other criteria the state would pay the expense. Still many women under the bill Obama sponsored would be stuck with the charges. Those who qualified under the program had to pay first or were billed and then had to file for reimbursement.

The Bill.

(740 ILCS 45/10.2 new)
4        Sec. 10.2.  Emergency awards.
5        (a)  If  it  appears,  prior  to  taking  action  on   an
6    application,  that the claim is one for which compensation is
7    probable, and undue hardship will result to the applicant  if
8    immediate  payment  is  not  made,  the  Attorney General may
9    recommend and the  Court  may  make  an  emergency  award  of
10    compensation  to  the  applicant, pending a final decision in
11    the case, provided the amount of emergency compensation  does
12    not  exceed $2,000.  The amount of emergency compensation for
13    funeral and burial expenses may not exceed $1,000. The amount
14    of emergency compensation shall be deducted  from  any  final
15    award  made as a result of the claim.  The full amount of the
16    emergency award if no final award is made shall be repaid  by
17    the applicant to the State of Illinois.
18        (b)  Emergency   award   applicants   must   satisfy  all
19    requirements under Section 6.1 of this Act.

End.

7 Responses to “Latest Palin Smear: Palin Charged Rape Victims for Rape Kits as Mayor… but when the truth gets out the elite media and the Democrats will have egg on their face again”

  1. Pam said

    Thank you for finding this information…this information needs to be told to as many people as possible. It breaks my heart how easily people will believe the lies about Gov. Palin. I just pray that enough discerning people who actually study the issues will vote, and that they will vote for McCain/Palin!

    Thanks again,

    Pam

  2. Blow Yourself said

    [This user posted 3 times under different names – so I put all his posts under his original name – Editor]

    Just because other towns are victimizing rape victims doesn’t make it right, jerk.

    [As you can see – the far left is all about substance today. There are so many comments like this and some are so bad I cant allow them to post. It just shows that the far left is becoming an ideology of hate. – Editor]

    *****

    Check Yourself Said,

    The Illinois bill you link to has nothing to do with rape kits per se, first of all. Second of all, the bill clearly indicates that a court (viz., the Court of Claims) has to sign off on the government’s trying to collect any money from any crime victim. Nothing is automatic.

    You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Back to the smearing board with you.

    *******

    Look here Fool Said,

    Obama was clearly against charging women for rape kits. Palin was clearly for charging women for rape kits. End of story.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/9/124815/2904

    [Read the post above friend – and try actually READING the bill and what we said about it – and please – the DailyKOS rarely gets a fact or story correct.

    Obama’s bill would have still left most women paying the bill if they weren’t destitute and if they could not recover the cost from the perp. Police Chief Fannon opposed the Alaska bill because it has no provision for billing the perp. Keep trying KosKids…

    I checked your IP address and you are the same person posting over and over under a different name. Post under one name from now on. I put all your posts together. – Editor.]

  3. Goanotherway said

    I wouldn’t hang your hat on the fact that fewer rapes were reported.

    If a victim faces paying $1,200 to report a rape, fewer will be reported. That’s the whole problem! After the law was passed rapes started to be reported.

    [NO city says it costs XXX dollars before you can report a rape, they billed the insurance companies and such afterword – stop being silly – Editor]

    Further, the vague quote about Illinois still charging victims doesn’t add up. Illinois House Bill 1814 (http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/summary/920HB1814.html) forbids billing victims for rape kits. It was co-sponsored by Barack Obama back in 2000. And the House Bill you reference above was sponsored in the Senate by Joe Biden.

    [ Editor’s Note – Biden is the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee in the Senate so all crime bills in the Senate are sponsored or co-sponsored by him if they want a good chance of getting through.

    You Know – you really should have read the bill you linked to. It says that it is illegal to use collection agency methods of someone who incurrs such a debt. It also allows the court of petitioned to make an emergency award to the victim to pay for the kit IF they meet strict criteria. Otherwise the victims pay for the kit. The law alaos allows the government to go after the perpetrator for the costs if possible.

    Bottom Line: Most women have to pay for the kit themselves… and THIS is the bill YOUR man sponsored in Illinois … real nice.

    (740 ILCS 45/10.2 new)
    4 Sec. 10.2. Emergency awards.
    5 (a) If it appears, prior to taking action on an
    6 application, that the claim is one for which compensation is
    7 probable, and undue hardship will result to the applicant if
    8 immediate payment is not made
    , the Attorney General may
    9 recommend and the Court may make an emergency award of
    10 compensation to the applicant, pending a final decision in
    11 the case, provided the amount of emergency compensation does
    12 not exceed $2,000. The amount of emergency compensation for
    13 funeral and burial expenses may not exceed $1,000. The amount
    14 of emergency compensation shall be deducted from any final
    15 award made as a result of the claim. The full amount of the
    16 emergency award if no final award is made shall be repaid by
    17 the applicant to the State of Illinois.

    18 (b) Emergency award applicants must satisfy all
    19 requirements under Section 6.1 of this Act. ]

  4. Goanotherway said

    I’m hardly “the left,” as I voted for both Bob Dole in 1996 and John McCain in the 2000 primaries, but I do think it’s important to present a fair argument. With that said, I’ll recommend that you edit your original article (again). If you want to attack me, that’s fine, but I’m hardly smearing anyone.

    (1) You summarily dismiss my first comment above – that women being directly billed by hospitals for rape kits discourages the reporting of crimes. That’s true. I’m sure this is why this line of argument hasn’t been taken to a broader level. The state law was prompted by complaints from women in the Wasilla area. The fact that no rapes were reported in Wasilla prior to the enactment of the Alaskan law should hardly be a point of pride.

    (2) I have no idea how you jump to the conclusion that “most” women in Illinois would still have to pay for the kits.

    (3) You take issue with the procedures involved with the emergency authorization under Illinois’ law to provide up-front payment by the state for such procedures. Yes, the law includes provision to allow the state to recover that advance of funds if the victim is not cooperative. Any responsible law should. An Illinois rape victim may find it distasteful to have to show that he or she doesn’t have insurance before having the state pay for a rape kit, but at least the option exists. That’s more than what Palin’s Wasilla administration would have made available. There. it’s pay the bill, then if there’s a conviction hope to recover on a criminal restitution order against your attacker.

    Seriously, you may say you take issue with the bill sponsored by Obama, or think it comes up short, but are you seriously saying that Palin’s administration was doing the right thing in opposing the Alaskan law in its entirety? That’s a tough position to take, if you’re to retain any shred of objectivity.

    [IUSB Vision Editor responds –

    1. Your comment was not backed by evidence.

    2. Umm read the bill and the article from U.S. News and World Report. There are more sources on this I can post.

    3. BS You aren’t reading or are just concerned about sliming Palin. They said that they try to bill the insurance or recover the funds from the perp. Show me someone in Wasilla who was denied a rape kit.

    4. “Palin’s administration” didn’t oppose the bill per se, her Police Chief Fannon made a few comments to a reporter that was obviously his opinion. The police chief made it very clear that he would like to see perpetraters pay the costs. As you can see the proposed bill made for no way to recover funds from the perp who committed the crime – that is what Fannon opposed.

    Here is the bill look for yourself: http://www.legis.state.ak.us/PDF/21/Bills/HB0270D.PDF

    You are arguing yourself into a hole…. keep diggin’]

  5. Marc Perkel said

    On this day when the stock market drops 500 points and every week another major financial
    institutions fails aren’t we glad that Congress never passed laws to privatize our Social Security funds?

    Just imagine what it would be like if Bush and McCain had got their way?
    Privatization and deregulation is just a license to steal the taxpayer’s money.

    Marc Perkel

    [IUSB Vision Editor Responds –

    Marc,

    Point 1 it was partial privatization just like the retirement fund that Congress has and hasn’t lost money (hint).

    Point 2. There are plenty of investment companies who do a fine job and still do today.

    Point 3. If you bothered to take the time to do a little reading, you will see that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and Lehmen Brothers were all federally regulated. Fannie and Freddie were overseen by the Banking Committee in Congress. Republicans saw what was coming and tried to reform it, Democrats blocked such attempts and ran interference of federal regulators.

    Those companies were involved in influence peddling by giving hundreds of millions to Democrats. Their number one recipients of this money were Chris Dodd and Barack Obama. Is it a coincidence that the movers and shakers in the Democratic Party were heavily involved in running these outfits?

    If Bush had gotten his way in 2003 when he tried to fix this we would have been better, but Democrats blocked it. If Republicans in Congress had their way this influence peddling would have been banned but Democrats in Congress blocked it.


    The irrefutable proof is right here: https://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/corruption-you-can-believe-in-failed-sub-primes-and-mortgage-fraud-lendors-funneled-money-to-dodd-obama-the-most-fannie-freddie-gave-200-million-to-partisans-most-went-to-democrats-dodd-obama/

    Excerpt:
    Franklin Raines, who was forced to resign due to a $6.3 billion accounting debacle he oversaw in 2004, and James Johnson are both former CEO’s of Fannie Mae. Raines and Johnson are the current economic advisors for Barack Obama. Raines was in charge when most of these high risk, sub prime rate loans were being given away; the primary catalyst to Fannie Mae’s collapse. The people who oversaw the Country-Wide scandal were working for Obama as well. Here is a New York Times article with some good info on Raines.

    Click the link & learn.]

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