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Carville to Reporters in 2001 – I Want Bush to Fail

Posted by iusbvision on March 11, 2009

Fox News:

The press never reported that Democratic strategist James Carville said he wanted President Bush to fail before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But a feeding frenzy ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail.

On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: “I certainly hope he doesn’t succeed.”

Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president.

“We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I’m wanting them to turn against him,” Greenberg admitted.

The pollster added with a chuckle of disbelief: “They don’t want him to fail. I mean, they think it matters if the president of the United States fails.”

Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: “Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!”

The press followed Carville’s orders, never reporting his or Greenberg’s desire for Bush to fail. The omission was understandable at first, as reporters were consumed with chronicling the new war on terror. But months and even years later, the mainstream media chose to never resurrect those controversial sentiments, voiced by the Democratic Party’s top strategists, that Bush should fail.

That omission stands in stark contrast to the feeding frenzy that ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail. The press devoted wall-to-wall coverage to the remark, suggesting that Limbaugh and, by extension, conservative Republicans, were unpatriotic.

“The most influential Republican in the United States today, Mr. Rush Limbaugh, said he did not want President Obama to succeed,” Carville railed on CNN recently. “He is the daddy of this Republican Congress.”

And it gets better…

Carville told Politico that focusing on Limbaugh is a deliberate strategy aimed at undermining Republicans.

5 Responses to “Carville to Reporters in 2001 – I Want Bush to Fail”

  1. llabesab said

    Carville! He’s to the USA what the “Asp” was to Cleopatra! Those eyes are a sure sign he’s been eating a lot of constipation-inducing rice. He mixes the rice with Rahm Emanuel’s chickens.

  2. Phil said

    You haven’t updated your entry to provide the newest information:

    http://thechairman66.wordpress.com/2009/03/12/limbaugh-vs-carville-part-ii-now-with-full-quote/

    [You have it all wrong on Limbaugh. He has made it clear time and time again, with full transcripts and audio on his web site. He believes these policies are designed to empower government and punish the creation of wealth, so if they are a success they will damage America, this is why he wants them to fail.

    Here is the video of what Rush said with the transcript. – https://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/fact-check-did-limbaugh-really-say-he-wants-obama-to-fail-or-are-you-being-spun/
    – Editor]

  3. Phil said

    Umm no. You’re quoting a different set of remarks. Rush’s repeated his “I want the President to fail…I want the stimulus to fail, I hope it prologues the recession” statement several times. The video you cite, from fox news btw, doesn’t include the context that his other statements do.

    You can click here for the audio clip from his radio:

    http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200902130013?show=1

    Start at 1:05

    [Did you even listen to the clip you linked?? – It verifies what I just told you, Rush says “This stimulus bill isn’t designed to create jobs” and then he refers to the Hannity clip I showed you in video which is 10 minutes long and very much in context.

    Its like I told you, he believes the bill is designed to bloat government, not create jobs, Rush doesn’t want bloated government so he hopes it fails. It’s crystal clear. Rush also reinforced this clearly in the CPAC speech. I know you are emotionally attached to the spin that was created by the White House, but its time to get over it. The facts just aren’t on your side. Don’t forget that 51% of Democrats polled said that wanted Bush to fail.

    Rush posts the entire transcript and audio of every show every day on his web site. It is no secret what Media Matters likes to do with short clips. If you are really that confident link it right to the original source. – Editor]

  4. Phil said

    Let me use small words so your ignorant little mind can understand.

    Rush is using circular logic. He wants the government to fail because he believes that the government will fail.

    The specific segment I’m mentioning takes place at 1:03 in the clip. This is where Rush begins to talk about “Because if this thing for the first time succeeds”…

    The foundation of the conservative platform is dependent on the idea that government is incapable of solving the country’s problem. If the stimulus succeeds, Rush fears that the American people will challenge this conservative assumption.

    Quite frankly, you’re inability to make a counterargument is proving my point. Instead of just insisting that Rush didn’t say that, how about you address the specific point I’m addressing instead of diverting attention to other parts of the clip or other clips all together.

    [The specific point you are making is a falsehood. It is false light libel. No counterargument is necessary when your original argument is a spun piece of dishonest propaganda.

    In short, I am calling you out as a liar to your face.

    I gave you 10 minutes of video, the transcript is available, Rush has repeated this almost daily on his radio show, and he explained his position in detail at CPAC and that video is on this site and on youtube. The facts are not honestly in dispute.

    It is no secret that the far left does not respond well to objective reality. Aristotle would ask, “does your perception of reality actually exist?”

    Thanks for verifying Quinn’s Law # 2 and # 5. – Editor]

  5. Phil said

    Rush posts the entire transcript and audio of every show every day on his web site. It is no secret what Media Matters likes to do with short clips. If you are really that confident link it right to the original source. – Editor]

    Don’t you think its fairly hypocritical of you to complain about not providing context when the fox news story about Carville’s comments includes a ONE SENTENCE quote.

    I checked Rush’s sight and the audio/video/transcripts are for subscribers only. If I’m wrong give me a link to rush’s transcripts. I’d be happy to use them

    However, the Media Matter’s clip is the full unaltered audio clip from Rush’s show. It’s 3:14 mins of directly streamed audio including the context before and after his comments.

    If you’re arguing the clip is some how incorrect make the argument and tell me why specifically instead of just bitching about it like a little girl.

    [Video and transcript of CPAC Speech where he goes over all this again – http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_030209/content/01125106.guest.html

    and here are the two vids with Hannity form January 21 with transcript –

    LIMBAUGH: If he does not eliminate the Bush tax cuts, I would call that success. So yes, I would hope he would succeed if he acts like Reagan, but if he’s going to do FDR, if he’s going to do the new, new deal all over which we will call here the raw deal, why would I want him to succeed?

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,481484,00.html

    – Editor]

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