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New York Times Calls Glenn Beck an Antisemite: Ignores Key facts, Ignores Letter from ADL Declaring Beck “A Friend of the Jewish People”

Posted by iusbvision on November 13, 2010

Why anyone believes a word that appears in the New York Times without triple checking it first is beyond me. Almost every day there are articles in that paper that can be debunked in minutes of fact checking. Example # 1, 374, 924 of this fundemental truth. The New York Times prints this:

Writing on The Daily Beast, the author Michelle Goldberg said Mr. Beck’s Tuesday and Wednesday programs were a “symphony of anti-Semitic dog whistles.”

The NYT also said that the ADL was criticizing Beck for reporting how George Soros admitted that he enjoyed working for the Nazi’s confiscating property of Jews and (as the narrative goes) how it just could not be true…. Oh really….. hey NYT… YouTube is a Behar isn’t it??

In Soros’ own words folks: 

Well guess what the New York Times had in their possession BEFORE they printed the slander against Glenn Beck?

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Special thanks to The Blaze for posting the letter.  

 

UPDATEAnother Jewish Group Defends Beck!

The national Jewish group Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) has come out strongly against Jewish leaders critical of Glenn Beck’s recent George Soros expose, which detailed his actions during the Holocaust, calling such criticism of Beck “painful, troubling and disquieting.”

“ZOA has expressed its concern over the strong criticism that a number of American Jewish leaders and other prominent Jews in recent days have directed at Fox broadcaster, Glenn Beck, for his criticism of Israel/U.S.-basher, financier George Soros, regarding his behavior in Nazi-occupied Budapest in 1944,” the group says in a statement released Tuesday.

In a three-part series on Beck’s Fox program last week, Beck portrayed Soros as the “puppet master” behind, among other things, world financial collapses. While describing Soros, Beck told how, during the Holocaust, the 14-year-old Hungarian Jew “used to go around with this anti-Semite and deliver papers to the Jews and confiscate their property and then ship them off.” The “anti-Semite” was Soros’s fake grandfather, who was paid off by his real father in an effort to conceal the young Soros’s Jewish identity. He has not shown remorse or regret for those actions.

“A number of American Jewish leaders condemned Mr. Beck for these remarks,” ZOA’s statement says, “yet a 1998 interview with Soros conducted by Steve Kroft on ‘60 Minutes’ shows that Beck did not misstate the facts.”

The group goes on to detail a litany of “anti-Israel, anti-American” remarks made by Soros over the years.*

Among those who have spoken out against Beck are Elan Steinberg, the vice president of the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants; Simon Greer, the director of Jewish Funds for Justice; Jewish writer Michelle Goldberg; and Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League.

“I have seen no proof,” Steinberg has said regarding Beck’s Soros claims, while Greer said Beck “deliberately and grotesquely” mischaracterized Soros’s actions and accused him of “Holocaust revisionism.” Goldberg wrote that Beck’s series went “beyond demonizing” Soros and described the programs as a “symphony of anti-Semitic dog whistles.” And Foxman issued a statement calling Beck’s claims “unacceptable,“ ”offensive,“ and ”horrific.”

Statements like those prompted ZOA to respond.

“It is painful, troubling and disquieting to see Jewish leaders defending any actions by George Soros, someone who has shown himself to be an active antagonist of Israel and the U.S., whom he blames for the world’s troubles,” ZOA National President Morton A. Klein says in the statement.

“In light of Soros’ hatred of Israel and the United States; his continuous efforts to harm them; the absence of any subsequent remorse and feeling as an adult over the events he witnesses in Nazi-occupied Hungary as a 14-year old; as well as the fact that Glenn Beck’s comments were essentially accurate, George Soros merits no defense or sympathy from Jewish leaders,” he adds.

“We are truly puzzled that some Jewish leaders have chosen to defend this and other Israel-bashers from their critics.”

9 Responses to “New York Times Calls Glenn Beck an Antisemite: Ignores Key facts, Ignores Letter from ADL Declaring Beck “A Friend of the Jewish People””

  1. laughingtompaine said

    Don’t you question the ADL’s credibility? After all, Glenn Beck went out of his way to discredit the ADL:

    http://laughingtompaine.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/glenn-beck-boldly-defames-the-jewish-anti-defamation-league/

    [IUSB Vision Editor Responds:

    While it is certainly true that the ADL has struggled with what its primary mission is, the advance of a far left ideology or helping the Jewish People and securing Israel. The point here is not that Glenn has critiqued them, heck I have critiqued them, and as you can see by the Israel category on this web site you will not find a stronger ally to Israel then myself. The point is that the NYT holds the ADL in very high regard, they had this letter in hand and chose to go for the smear. Do you realize the kind of wacky pretzel like logic you have to go through to come to the position you have?
    I have news for you man, hate is not a family value.]

  2. laughingtompaine said

    I suppose we could all join in with Glenn Beck to beat up on the ADL and its head Abraham Foxman, but perhaps the NY Times did not want to present Abraham Foxman as a self-serving back-peddler. It is the logic of Foxman’s reversal on Glenn Beck that seems the most pretzel shaped.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/12/adl-chief-praised-glenn-beck_n_782911.html



    [IUSB Vision Editor Responds:

    Now that is a good point, which reaffirms my last one; that the ADL has struggled with what its primary mission is, the advance of a far left ideology or helping the Jewish People and securing Israel. It certainly is fair to say that the ADL has attacked people because they weren’t leftists even though they were supporters of Israel.

    With that said, journalistic ethics demand if you are going to use Abe Foxman for the smear, you also have to point out the mea culpa.]

  3. laughingtompaine said

    The ADL has a far left ideology? Do you think that Abraham Foxman is a conscious, dedicated agent of communism?


    [IUSB Vision Editor responds,

    Your question presents a false choice premise as there are plenty of leftists who are not “communists”.]

  4. laughingtompaine said

    but in your opinion, they are all just as dangerous, right?

    [IUSB Vision Editor Responds

    No, while many leftists are willing to tolerate a great deal of economic suffering from a flat-lining economy to millions of people losing their homes; others such as White House advisers John Holdren and Cass Sunstien advocate total control of our lives in planned (by force if necessary) so called “sustainable communities”, reducing the population to a fraction of what it is now (also by force if need be). Others such as former White House adviser Van Jones are self described “revolutionary communists” and would likely not hesitate to use executions if it helped aid their plans. Former White House Communications Director Anita Dunn described the largest mass murderer in world history, Chairman Mao, as the “philosopher she turns to most”.

    So no they are not all equally as dangerous. The more the planners plans fail the more the planners plan; when those plans in-turn fail, that is when the dangerous ones expose themselves.]

  5. laughingtompaine said

    I know that Abraham Foxman wrote a critical introduction to Mein Kampf, but I don’t think this makes him a far-left “planner.”



    [IUSB Vision Editor Responds

    Your statement implies that I made the argument that writing about Mein Kampf makes one a far left planner. Can you show me where I made such a stupid argument?

    Respectfully, your statement shows that you are not nearly prepared enough with knowledge of ADL history in their attacks on pro-Jewish non leftists to even begin to have a meaningful conversation on the subject.

    I will make a comparison, the NAACP fights to preserve the status quo of failing inner city public schools. As does Rainbow Push and Sharpton’s group. If these groups cared anything about minority children they would be marching against these schools and the corrupt teachers union that preserves the status quo. But that union spreads around massive money among leftist circles and those who have sold out are doing what they do.

    You see these activist groups start out OK, but then the Tides Foundations and the George Soros’s of the world get in them and take them over. NOW is the same way. NOW supports candidates who have made all sorts of sexist comments and actions because they were leftists, even if said leftist was a man running against a woman. It is because they are totally bought and paid for and now to them it is about the money. Just ask Tammy Bruce.]

  6. laughingtompaine said

    I am sorry that you do not appreciate the fact that Foxman is a critic of a right-wing demagogue such as Hitler, but you were unable to give a single shred of evidence for why or how Abraham Foxman is a far-left ideologue. In fact, you use Foxman to defend Glenn Beck! Allow me to do your job in giving some context to the matter: you ignore the key fact that Foxman is of two-minds regarding Glenn Beck. After the Foxman letter to Beck was publicized, Foxman said that Beck “is a strong supporter of Israel and the Jewish people,But I also believe that there are certain things he doesn’t understand, which have led him to make insensitive remarks,”
    http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/11/12/beck_adl_foxman_letter

    Why anyone believes a word that appears in the IUSB Vision Weblog without triple checking it first is beyond me. You also indicate with your sheepish devotion to Glenn Beck by referencing his context-free clips of the 60 Minutes George Soros interview. How is it that a 14-year-old Jewish holocaust survivor should feel guilty for holocaust atrocities?

    Considering you holocaust-revisionism, I don’t know where you stand with the Jewish people, but you are no friend to either key facts or context.

    [IUSB Vision Editor Responds –

    First of all Hitler was not “Right Wing” he was a socialist whose supporters touted “Social Justice” repeatedly (if you wish to deny this you realize I am going to cream you with the evidence right? You do realize that Beck did a couple of days of shows showing Nazi’s pushing “social justice” complete with videos, old books and newspapers, and other evidence).

    Hitler favored central control of the economy, education, and of much of the means of production. Even Goebbels said Communism and Fascism are ideological cousins. I could give you a dissertation of the similarities between the two but that is another subject. All Jews criticize Hitler for the obvious reasons and that has nothing to with your perceptions, misperceptions of ideology.

    If you actually watched the Glenn Beck show, Beck has stated that he does not hold Soros totally responsible for his actions at that age. Beck was just stating the record. It was Foxman and some on the left who said that Beck simply stating the record that Soros said that it was the best time of his life that they found to be crazy, so Beck whipped out the video of Soros saying exactly that.

    This is what I find so amusing about the left, they call Beck all these names and such, and when he whips out the evidence do you guys try to tackle the evidence square on, of course not, you just repeat your accusations. It doesn’t work any more and independents have abandoned the left and the elite media for their intellectual dishonesty.

    If I was wrong or Beck was wrong they would post a longer unedited portion of Soros’ statement and claim that Beck got it wrong, but they don’t and you wont. You claim “context-free” clips ala Alan Grayson or Media Matters style smears, but where is the video that shows Beck is wrong? Soros also wrote about most of the things that Beck talks about in his own books. Anyone can go look them up.

    In fact Beck posted a complete list of sources and evidence on his web site and encouraged people to check for themselves – the evidence as at this link – http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-puppet-master-read-the-beck-tv-background-guide-to-george-soros/

    If you or your friends had any type of substantive refutation it would have started with the evidence posted at this link. So far you guys have come up with ZERO.

    You said,

    “Why anyone believes a word that appears in the IUSB Vision Weblog without triple checking it first is beyond me”

    You see that is the lovely thing about this web site, I post the links, sources and YouTube video’s so people can do just that. When I make a judgment or a claim, it is because of something verifiable that is in the post, or something that you can find on this site with a simple search.

    If you had substantive refutation that people could verify for themselves you would have posted it already, and you just haven’t and I do not expect that you will any time soon.

    The left said that Beck was wrong (and called him names) about ACORN, Van Jones, Anita Dunn, George Soros, inflation, but Beck was shown to be correct. They said that Beck was nuts when he said long ago that Bernanke was lying when he said he would not start monetizing the debt and now he has…. and this is just a tiny sample of the list.

    Last but not least you accuse me of “holocaust revisionism” .. Based on what? Put up or shut up. Check out the “Israel” category on this site as it shows how I feel about Israel and the Jewish People. I even have a friend that is in the Prime Ministers’ family. I have blasted left wing professors for their unfair and dishonest bashing of Israel and I have done so publicly.

    So as it boils down, people can triple check us all day long and find out that we are directionally accurate to spot on with what we post. You make accusations like the ones you did above and anyone who triple checks that can see that you are prone to false and misleading statements.]

  7. laughingtompaine said

    Lord, I don’t know where to begin with your hysterical disavowal of right-wing ideology. Hitler was installed by the business community to prevent the German communists from taking power. After elected, Hitler took a hard-line “Germany for real Germans” agenda by persecuting sexual minorities, racial minorities and communists. Hitler worked closely with the business community and helped dissolve the unions.

    http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-hitler.htm

    Regarding Beck and Bernake, I’m remain thoroughly unconvinced by your conservative Hoovernomics. It presumes that inflation is a greater danger than deflation, and since you probably don’t know what “deflation” means . . . well, so much for having an intelligent conversation about inflation!

    Finally, about the Holocaust Revisionism:
    1) George Soros survived the Holocaust.
    2) George Soros did nothing shameful during the Holocaust.

    These are the historical facts, going on Soros’ own words. Anyone who claims otherwise without any evidence, whether you or Beck, unjustly revises history: namely the history of the holocaust.

    http://www.anti-semitism.net/category/holocaust-revisionism


    [IUSB Vision Editor Responds –

    First of all, Hitler being an anti-communist does not make him right wing. There are plenty of socialists that opposed communism. Russia also shut down unions, so Stalin is right wing? You need to read a good history book or two and find out why Hitler opposed Communism, in spite of their vast similarities (I would explain it to you but that would deny you the chance of possibly picking up a good book).

    I found your Hoovernomics mischaracterization amusing. Hoover was NOT a conservative or free market guy. He was a big time interventionist. He raised regulations, taxes (Revenue Act of 1932), tariffs hello Smoot Hawley ACT (which is the type of legislation far left unions still support) and increased the bureaucracy and government spending. Hoover created the Reconstruction Finance Corp. which spent billions on bank bailouts (Hmm kinda like Bush/Obama). We saw how well that worked back then didn’t we? And we see how the results of the same policies regurgitated by Obama have just led to more corruption, kickbacks, central control and a flat-lining economy.

    As far as inflation/deflation, did you know in the early 90’s the government changed the way it calculated inflation? If we measured it now the same way we did under Carter and Reagan it would be 10%.

    Throwing all modesty aside, I have debated PhD’s in economics and eaten their lunch in front of an audience. I have more economics history in my head then you will likely ever read. Like I said, I have a passion for economics to a level that, well you just have no idea.

    As far as Soros’ history, I see you are still in denial of Soros’ own words. His own books and statements on video show that I am correct and so far you have shown no substantive evidence otherwise. I found your link amusing…. because unlike you I actually read it. It goes onto tell how Simon Greer is saying these bad things about Beck, but it also tells how Greer has been attacking Beck since Beck blasted him for using his position to push “Social Justice” economics which equals centralized control of the economy and the consolidation of power and wealth. With Simon Greer, its personal…. its too bad that you simply did not read your own link carefully.

    By the way, enjoy the update I just posted which shows the Zionist Organization of America defending Beck and declaring what he said about Soros and the Holocaust to be correct. So who is the holocaust revisionist now ….

    I win again. Now this is getting to the point where you are really making a fool of yourself. I have no wish to pile on and humiliate you with the facts even further, but if you keep commenting with material that is so transparently and demonstrably false your embarrassment will just continue. In short, you picked the wrong blogger to try and spin, maybe you should go back to internet message boards where the competition is a lot less informed.]

  8. […] date foreclosed any future correspondence by refusing to mediate/post my follow-up comment. It is a truly preening tour-de-bluff: [IUSB Vision Editor Responds […]

    [IUSB Vision Editor Responds:

    This gent who calls himself LaughingTomPaine is quite typical of the left. Does he actually make an argument? No, did he respond to any of my substantive refutation with anything the reader could verify? Nope…. Does he even competently address the substantive points presented? Are you kidding?

    What does he do, he calls names, slings labels like McCarthyite and Hoovernomics, but when challenged on the meaning of some of his terms it became clear that he didn’t understand them. Perhaps a name or a label is more acceptable with some excellent substantive argument to hold its hand, but that was not to be found here.

    He did manage to post a link, which he didn’t even read (see comment above). All in all he demonstrated no ability to make a coherent argument. So after the intellectual pasting I gave him above, he goes back to his site and the lies begin. He goes on about how I responded to the posts I allowed to be published. Every post he put on the site appears here. Perhaps this was his way of trying to salvage what was left of his ego.

    Unfortunately there are lots of people on internet message boards who are just like this man. My experience has shown, and judging by the hate comments left on this blog, there is nary a residue of difference among them. We could remove the names from the comments and put them on a screen and they would be so alike that most could not be distinguished.

    I have noticed, as well as have some professors who are friends of mine, that outside of politics, many young people come to school with this same deficit. The inability to make a real argument, even when given facts that are readily available. I have seen many students who cannot even put together a decent reaction paper and after talking to some local high school students about the content of their classes it is not a surprise. Today I was reading my daughters literature book and it had a section on some of the founding documents. The book had a glaring error for which I wrote a response to the teacher complete with fully footnoted original source material so she could verify that the text is in error for herself. Can we say vetting process?

    LaughingTomPaine knows he hates traditional Americans, he has a long list of charged slogans that he does not understand, but that amounts to the best “argument” he is capable of making. Public schools and universities pump out a percentage of people like this every year and we can have little more than mere pity for people so trapped by a neglected education. I think that I will dedicate at least a portion of my upcoming book to the LaughingTomPaine and those like him who our public education system has let down so profoundly.]

  9. […] like to go back to an old blog post inspired by a rather contentious correspondence I had with an unpleasant Bircher on the subject of Hoovernomics. As far as anyone can tell amidst […]

    [So far, Laughing Tom Paine, as he has the nerve to call himself, has generated zero hit referrals from his web site. This is a shame because I was hoping that maybe one or two people he might know would come here and see how I dismantled the ill-informed stereotypes he tried to pass off as arguments in the other comments with this thread. – Editor]

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