Israel – UPDATED!
Posted by iusbvision on May 21, 2011
IUSB Vision Editor Chuck Norton:
Normally I do not get riled up easily, but as a rule one does not write when angered. So I gave myself some time before posting on this further because even the possibility of genocide is very serious.
Yes I said genocide… “But Chuck, going back to the 67 borders doesn’t mean Genocide” … Anyone who tells you that, even if it is a President, is either lying to you or simply has not studied the issue and/or been to Israel. That is not extremist talk, that is not a theory, it is the reality on the ground. We understand that many people reading this do not understand or could even fathom such a reality. The following short video shows exactly the how and why of what we have told you, and what the Israeli government has maintained for many years.
Let us keep a few thoughts in mind that President Obama went to that “church” in Chicago which preached caustic antisemitism for many years. Antisemitic comments from Rev. Wright and Louis Farakhan are nothing new (Farrakhan was a frequent visitor) . Antisemitism is also in high fashion among the academic left which the other of Obama’s peer circles.
What I found amusing is that lie that came from the far left immediately after Obama’s speech is that “1967 borders have always been the policy of the United States so Obama isn’t saying anything new (so you must be racist because you are criticizing him for saying it)”. The truth must be put to this lie right now:
What Real Presidents, and their Secretaries of State, had to say about pre 1967 borders.
Obama’s speech today took the peace process backward, instead of forward. Back when the USA had an adult in the White House, here is what they had to say about the Pre-1967 “Borders”
In an address delivered on September 1, 1982 President Ronald Reagan said:
In the pre-1967 borders Israel was barely 10 miles wide at its narrowest point. The bulk of Israel’s population lived within artillery range of hostile Arab armies. I am not about to ask Israel to live that way again… So the United States will not support the establishment of an independent Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza, and we will not support annexation or permanent control by Israel. There is, however, another way to peace. The final status of these lands must, of course, be reached through the give-and-take of negotiations; but it is the firm view of the United States that self-government by the Palestinians of the West Bank and Gazain association with Jordan offers the best chance for a durable, just and lasting peace. It is the United States’ position that – in return for peace – the withdrawal provision of Resolution 242 applies to all fronts, including the West Bank and Gaza. When the border is negotiated between Jordan and Israel, our view on the extent to which Israel should be asked to give up territory will be heavily affected by the extent of true peace and normalization and the security arrangements offered in return. Finally, we remain convinced that Jerusalem must remain undivided, but its final status should be decided through negotiations
Meanwhile Secretary of State Madeleine Albright told the U.N. Security Council: “We simply do not support the description of the territories occupied by Israel in 1967 as ‘Occupied Palestinian Territory’. In the view of my Government, this language could be taken to indicate sovereignty, a matter which both Israel and the PLO have agreed must be decided in negotiations on the final status of the territories. “Had this language appeared in the operative paragraphs of the resolution, let me be clear: we would have exercised our veto. In fact, we are today voting against a resolution in the Commission on the Status of Women precisely because it implies that Jerusalem is “occupied Palestinian territory”.
U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger recalled the first time he heard someone invoke “the sacramental language of United Nations Security Council Resolution 242, mumbling about the need for a just and lasting peace within secure and recognized borders”. He said the phrase was so platitudinous that he thought the speaker was pulling his leg. Kissinger said that, at that time, he did not appreciate how the flood of words used to justify the various demands obscured rather than illuminated the fundamental positions. Kissinger said those “clashing perspectives” prevented any real bargaining and explained: “Jordan’s acquiescence in Resolution 242 had been obtained in 1967 by the promise of our United Nations Ambassador Arthur Goldberg that under its terms we would work for the return of the West Bank of Jordan with minor boundary rectifications and that we were prepared to use our influence to obtain a role for Jordan in Jerusalem.”
However, speaking to Henry Kissinger, President Richard Nixon said “You and I both know they can’t go back to the other  borders. But we must not, on the other hand, say that because the Israelis win this war, as they won the ’67 War, that we just go on with status quo. It can’t be done.” Kissinger replied “I couldn’t agree more”
Moreover, President Gerald Ford said: “TheU.S. further supports the position that a just and lasting peace, which remains our objective, must be acceptable to both sides.
So this is what adults, from both political parties, have had to say about UN 242, and pulling back to 1967 borders. Of all the Presidents, Gerald Ford said it best: it must be acceptable to both sides. Trying to jam a dead UN Agreement down the throats of Israel, sets the stage for another blood bath.
Mini-Update: The spin several days later is that the Obama proposal was similar to the former Israeli PM Ehud Olmert peace proposal. What the administration forgot to say is that when Olmert made this proposal the Israeli population was not pleased as it made a border that was completely indefensible; when Olmert made his proposal to the Palestinian Authority they did not even answer diplomatically, they attacked with mortar fire and rockets [keep in mind that this was the old “more moderate” pre-Hamas Palestinian Authority]. Prime Minister Olmert had to step down because he was indicted for corruption.
The Escape Hatch
Of course, as in most speeches made by politicians an out word or phrase is always inserted so as to make it easier to be securely on both sides of the issue in case backtracking becomes a political necessity [Note: always look for the escape hatch phrase in any political speech]. In the case of Obama’s speech it was 1967 borders “with mutually agreed swaps”. That sounds so good doesn’t it? Tell me, after watching that video how can Israel give up any land West of the large valley between Israel and Jordan, or the Golan Heights etc? To do so would leave Israel with borders that are structurally indefensible. It has only been by the bravery of the Israeli people and the overwhelming technical superiority of American military hardware that has prevented a second holocaust.
With the escape hatch phrase Obama can say “I wanted borders based on the 1967 lines” which resulted in an invasion, while at the same time saying “I said that we cannot just go back to the 1967 borders”. There are few politicians who speak that do not include these escape hatch phrases [Gov. Christie of New Jersey does not use them and even made a speech against their use.]
So Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu made use of Obama’s escape hatch phrase and wiped his feet on it saying “President Obama says that we cannot go back to the 1967 borders”. Of course the Prime Minister knows full well this was not Obama’s intent, but graciously gave him an out. One thing is strikingly obvious, President Obama was shocked by the push-back he received from some in his own party. Not only did almost every Republican condemn Obama’s remarks, but so did many Democrats. The simple truth is that most Democrats are not antisemites in spite of the fact that the racist “liberation theology” types and many on the academic left are.
Congressman Allen West (Florida-22) gave a response that was representative of most Republicans:
Today’s endorsement by President Barack Obama of the creation of a Hamas-led Palestinian state based on the pre-1967 borders, signals the most egregious foreign policy decision his administration has made to date, and could be the beginning of the end as we know it for the Jewish state.
From the moment the modern day state of Israel declared statehood in 1948, to the end of the 1967 Six Day War, Jews were forbidden access to their holiest site, the Western Wall in Jerusalem’s Old City, controlled by Jordan’s Arab army.
The pre-1967 borders endorsed by President Obama would deny millions of the world’s Jews access to their holiest site and force Israel to return the strategically important Golan Heights to Syria, a known state-sponsor of terrorism.
Resorting to the pre-1967 borders would mean a full withdrawal by the Israelis from the West Bank and the Jewish neighborhoods of East Jerusalem. Make no mistake, there has always been a Nation of Israel and Jerusalem has been and must always be recognized as its rightful capital.
In short, the Hamas-run Palestinian state envisioned by President Obama would be devastating to Israel and the world’s 13.3 million Jews. It would be a Pavlovian style reward to a declared Islamic terrorist organization, and an unacceptable policy initiative.
America should never negotiate with the Palestinian Authority – which has aligned itself with Hamas. Palestine is a region, not a people or a modern state. Based upon Roman Emperor Hadrian’s declaration in 73 AD, the original Palestinian people are the Jewish people.
Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid rebuked Obama on national television – video.
Legendary musician, KISS lead, and actor Gene Simmons did not mince words either. Warning this IS Gene Simmons so you know what to expect. Simmons is an Israeli by the way.
Prime Minister Netanyahu came to the White House and in a most unusual happenstance, he took President Obama to school right in front of the press. Aside from the substance of the video, we are privy to watch a master diplomat at work.
“Everybody knows this (1967 borders) isn’t going to happen.” “Peace based on an illusion will crash upon rocks of reality.”
Everyone is beating up on President Obama, but in fairness to the President, he has been inundated with antisemitic propaganda much of his life. His father was a communist, his mother was a radical academic leftist, his mentor was Frank Marshall Davis who was also a communist. Obama wrote in his book that he sought out the Marxists in college. Campus leftists and antisemitism are like bacon and eggs. Obama’s preacher. Rev. Wright, is as hateful an antisemite as they come. This may be the first time the President was exposed to a realistic appraisal of this issue. I hope that his time with Prime Minister Netanyahu will have an impact, but if it didn’t this did…
This was not Israel’s message to Obama in the video above; rather in standing ovation after standing ovation the message was clear, this was a unified Congress’ message to the President and his administration. I am grateful for it because the world became much more unstable for a few days until this message was sent to the world.
My Thoughts – This is just conjecture so take it as such. What the Obama Administration has been doing to Israel is exactly what Joe Biden promised would not happen in the campaign. So I would like to know what is going on with him. It is no secret that Valerie Jarret and her crew are hostile to Israel and that they are the closest to Obama and have been since Chicago. Advisors Samantha Power and Cass Sunstien are very hostile towards Israel. While I have many critiques of Joe Biden, wavering on support for Israel is something I never thought I would see from him. It is clear by the video that Biden is thrilled to see this reaction from Congress I wonder if he helped to orchestrate it and protect Obama from himself by undermining his 1967 proposal.
UPDATE – Egypt to permanently open border with Gaza – LINK.
This is important because Iran has been sending arms to Hamas, including anti-ship missiles. Israel has been inspecting ships coming to Gaza and confiscating heavy weapons. Now Syria and Iran can send weapons to Egypt and they will gto to Gaza and be used against Israeli civilians. So much for the “Arab Spring” for democracy that Obama has been talking about. The result of Obama not helping Mubarak is that the Christians in Egypt are under even attack worse than before, the Muslim Brotherhood is taking over the country and they have promised to end the peace agreement between Egypt and Israel. They have also banned any new mass protests in Egypt and the few that were serious about “democracy” have vanished (VIDEO – LINK – LINK). We seem to be also be helping the Muslim Brotherhood take over Libya, but in Iran, when REAL pro-democracy and freedom protesters were rising up against the regime Obama let them get slaughtered with no serious support.